obvious abuses of the Word-Faith movement concerning the "health" and "wealth" gospel are readily acknowledged by most evangelical Christians. However, the most serious errors of the movement involve the "faith" teachings on the atonement of Christ.
Many Word-Faith teachers claim that redeemed man has the nature of God and that fallen man has the nature of Satan. According to these teachers, Jesus Christ voluntarily took upon Himself man's sinful nature and His very nature changed.
They also teach that when man (Adam) rebelled (or as they frequently put in, "committed high treason") he not only took on the nature of Satan, but betrayed God by turning over to Satan what God had given him. So, in order to redeem mankind and creation from Satan's "legal" control, Jesus as the second Adam, had to die not only physically but spiritually. According to these false teachers, Jesus took on the very nature of Satan on the cross, died spiritually, and while completing the plan of redemption in hell, was born again. Look at what some of the main leaders have said:
"Do you think that the punishment for our sin was to die on a cross? If that were the case, the two thieves could have paid our price. No, the punishment was to go into hell itself and to serve time in hell separated from God" (Frederick K.C. Price, Ever Increasing Faith Messenger, June 1990, p. 7).
"Ladies and gentlemen, the serpent is a symbol of Satan. Jesus Christ knew the only way he would stop Satan was by becoming one in nature with him. You say, What did you say? What blasphemy is this? No, you hear this! He did not take my sin; He became my sin" (Benny Hinn, Benny Hinn broadcast on TBN, December 15, 1990).
"When Jesus cried "It is finished!" He was not speaking of the plan of redemption. There were still three days and nights to go through before He went to the throne. He was referring to the Abrahamic CovenantJesus' death on the cross was only the beginning of the complete work of redemption" (Kenneth Copeland, "Jesus - Our Lord of Glory", Believer's Voice of Victory, April, 1982, p. 3).
"The righteousness of God was made to be sin. He accepted the sin nature of Satan in His own spirit. And at that moment that He did so He cried, `My God, My God, Why hast thou forsaken me?' You don't know what happened at the cross. Why do you think Moses, upon instruction of God, raised the serpent upon that pole instead of a lamb? That use to bug me. I said, `Why in the world would you want to put a snake up there - the sign of Satan? Why didn't you put a lamb on that pole?' And the Lord said, `Because it was a sign of Satan that was hanging on the cross.' He (Jesus) said, `I accepted in my own spirit, spiritual death; and the light was turned off'" (Kenneth Copeland, What Happened From the Cross to the Throne? cassette tape, Kenneth Copeland Ministries, parenthesis mine).
Among the errors many Word-Faith teachers make about the atonement of Christ, one is the "spiritualizing" of the death of Jesus Christ. Another is the distortion of what Jesus meant on the cross when He said, "It is finished" (John 19:30).
The teachers of this movement emphasize the "spiritual" death of Christ almost to the exclusion of His "physical" death. The problem with this is simply that it is unbiblical. The Bible's emphasis is on the physical death of Christ, not the spiritual. The teaching of scripture is: "Without shedding of blood (physical) is no remission" (Hebrews 9:22, parenthesis mine).
As regarding Christ's words, "It is finished", the word in the Greek is tetelistai and is rendered "to bring to an end" or "paid for in full" (Vine's Expository Dictionary). What Christ was saying was that the work of redemption (paying for sin and securing salvation) was complete. If Christ did anything else beyond "It is finished," in order to pay for sin, something is added to His completed work. This is what the Word-Faith teachers have done when they teach that salvation was completed in hell, after Christ died on the cross!
On what scripture do these teachers base their doctrine of the spiritual death of Christ? Most of them point to Psalm 22:1 where the Psalmist cried out "My God, My God, Why hast thou forsaken me?" Jesus of course uttered these words on the cross in fulfillment of the Psalmist's prophecy (Mark 15:34).
However, when reading Psalm 22, it is seen that God never abandoned the Psalmist (see 22:19, 22, 23, 24). And in other psalms, we discover the Psalmist is always feeling like God had abandoned him when God had not. He seems to be saying, "God, where are you when I need you?" But in Psalm 22, David is merely expressing how he feels, rather than the idea of God really abandoning him.
Jesus, in his human nature, while on the cross, as He looks into the cup of death, expresses the very same feeling or emotion as did David. God never abandoned Christ on the cross. Rather, God turned His back to what was on Jesus, namely sin. Jesus was man's sin-bearer, but He was not polluted with man's sin-nature and the nature of Satan as the Word-Faith teachers claim.
Finally, did Christ die spiritually? The answer is no! At least not in the way the leaders of this movement teach. The Bible does not teach that Jesus died spiritually. As a matter of fact, the Bible teaches just the opposite.
In I Peter 3:18, Peter states that Christ was "Put to death in the flesh, but quickened (made alive) by the Spirit." This does not mean that He was once dead spiritually and now He is alive spiritually, or by the Spirit.
In conclusion, if what the Word-Faith teachers claim regarding the atonement of Christ is true, then one will have to rewrite the words of Christ on the cross.
For instance, instead of saying "It is finished," Christ should have explained Himself by saying, "I'm not talking about the plan of salvation, but I'm talking about the Abrahamic covenant."
Instead of Christ saying to the thief on the cross, "Today you will be with Me in Paradise," He should have said, "Today you will be with Me suffering in hell."
Instead of saying, "Father, into Thy hands I commend My spirit," He should have said, "Satan, into your hands I commend My spirit."
There is still one more problem with this movement's teaching that Jesus defeated Satan in hell: Satan is not in hell. One day he will be!
Sunday, October 28, 2007
Questions 1-3 from the Westminster Shorter Catechism. For your Family Devotion today.
Question 1: What is the chief end of man?
Answer 1: Man's chief end is to glorify God,[1] and to enjoy Him for ever.[2]
1. I Cor. 10:312. Psa. 73:25-26
Q2: What rule hath God given to direct us how we may glorify and enjoy Him?
A2: The Word of God, which is contained in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments,[1] is the only rule to direct us how we may glorify and enjoy Him.[2]
1. Eph. 2:20; II Tim. 3:162. I John 1:3
Q3: What do the Scriptures principally teach?
A3: The Scriptures principally teach what man is to believe concerning God, and what duty God requires of man.[1]
1. II Tim. 1:13
Answer 1: Man's chief end is to glorify God,[1] and to enjoy Him for ever.[2]
1. I Cor. 10:312. Psa. 73:25-26
Q2: What rule hath God given to direct us how we may glorify and enjoy Him?
A2: The Word of God, which is contained in the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments,[1] is the only rule to direct us how we may glorify and enjoy Him.[2]
1. Eph. 2:20; II Tim. 3:162. I John 1:3
Q3: What do the Scriptures principally teach?
A3: The Scriptures principally teach what man is to believe concerning God, and what duty God requires of man.[1]
1. II Tim. 1:13
Saturday, October 27, 2007
Spiritually Dead? Spiritually Sick? Spiritually Well? What is the Answer? By Rev. C.J. Paul
Spiritually Dead Augustine--- Focus on God
Spiritually Sick Semi-Pelagianism ---Focus on God plus Man
Spiritually Well Pelagius--- Focus on Man
If man is spiritually dead, than original sin has so corrupted man that he is unable to be righteous by his own effort, then only a supernatural act of God can save him and the Savior in the person of Jesus Christ provides the means of salvation. Only by God's grace, only by divine intervention in changing the nature of man's fallen soul, is a person able to put his faith in Christ and set his mind on what the Spirit desires.
If man is spiritually sick, then he doesn't need a savior necessarily, he just needs a doctor to help him get well. If sin has not totally corrupted your nature, then you do not need God's grace in salvation, or at least you are not solely dependent upon God's grace to put your faith in Christ. Since it is Christ plus the additional efforts of man, and there are many different people, then there must be many paths to God.
If man is spiritually well, then he doesn't need God, let alone a Savior to save him from anything. As Pelagius said, man has the natural ability to be righteous.
THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.......GOOD FOR THE FAMILY GOOD FOR OUR LIFE....By Rev. C.J. Paul
The animated film,The Ten Commandments, opens nationwide today! Bring your family and friends to experience this extraordinary adventure about a man, "CHOSEN BY GOD."
CROSS T.V. INFORMATION FOR LIFE. By Rev. Charles J. Paul
Mark Kielar is the founder of CrossTV and creator of the Word Pictures series. Additionally, he hosts many of the Word Pictures programs. CrossTV, a religious programming company produces the Word Pictures series. a collection of over 40 videos addressing Biblical and Christian concepts, theology and issues.He is currently serving as pastor / teaching elder at First Baptist Church of Boynton Beach, Florida.
CrossTV is a Christian television production ministry that has created a unique programming series called Word Pictures. These programs are designed to address the most vital, life-changing, soul-shaking biblical subjects in a compelling video format.
"I highly recommend these programs for the pastor, teacher, and lay person. Who is serious about growing in God’s Word. So visit the web site http://www.crosstv.com/ and order your first program. You will be glad you did." C.J. Paul.
Reformation Day Deal From Ligonier Ministries
Ligonier Ministries is announcing a great deal on the Reformation Study Bible—the best Study Bible I’ve ever used.
A few of us spoke with RC recently and talked about a way to commemorate Reformation Day. We have decided to offer something special. Next Wednesday, Ligonier Ministries will offer the Reformation Study Bible for $15.17. This is the ESV, hardback edition. It’s a 1 day only sale and I thought you should know.
To quote Stephen Nichols, it’s been 490 years since “a monk with a mallet” nailed his 95 theses to the church door in Wittenberg, Germany. God used Luther to start the greatest revival the world has seen. Though there were many benefits to the Protestant Reformation, the publishing of God’s Word in common languages was united to a hunger for the right understanding of that Word. The year 1517 saw a display of God’s grace in human history and every year since we have the opportunity to remember. Let us redouble our efforts to be faithful to the historic Christian faith.
To this end they are offering the Reformation Study Bible on October 31 (Reformation Day) for only $15.17. You can order as many copies as you like at that price, provided you do not resell it. You can get details here: reformationstudybible.com.
A few of us spoke with RC recently and talked about a way to commemorate Reformation Day. We have decided to offer something special. Next Wednesday, Ligonier Ministries will offer the Reformation Study Bible for $15.17. This is the ESV, hardback edition. It’s a 1 day only sale and I thought you should know.
To quote Stephen Nichols, it’s been 490 years since “a monk with a mallet” nailed his 95 theses to the church door in Wittenberg, Germany. God used Luther to start the greatest revival the world has seen. Though there were many benefits to the Protestant Reformation, the publishing of God’s Word in common languages was united to a hunger for the right understanding of that Word. The year 1517 saw a display of God’s grace in human history and every year since we have the opportunity to remember. Let us redouble our efforts to be faithful to the historic Christian faith.
To this end they are offering the Reformation Study Bible on October 31 (Reformation Day) for only $15.17. You can order as many copies as you like at that price, provided you do not resell it. You can get details here: reformationstudybible.com.
A Reformation Day Symposium 2007 Edition By Tim Challies
October 31, five days from today, will mark the 490th anniversary of the day that Martin Luther nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the church at Wittenburg. In so doing he struck a match, beginning a fire that quickly spread throughout Europe and throughout the world. Having become increasingly disillusioned with the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, and in particular the sale of indulgences, Luther wrote his Theses to try to begin the process of reform. While he was unable to bring reform to the church, he did trigger the Protestant Reformation by rediscovering the Gospel - the good news of salvation by grace through faith. The Reformation had profound influence in politics, art, literature and theology - while it was at its heart a Christian movement, it impacted all areas of society. That seemingly insignificant act is, in reality, one of the defining points of history. It is a shame that the day has largely been forgotten in favor of what is now the year’s most popular day, Halloween (Halloween is, after all, one of the few holidays that our society can celebrate without shame and without feeling politically incorrect).
Last year, on October 31, I hosted a “Reformation Day Symposium” and invited bloggers to write articles dealing with the Reformation. A whole crowd of bloggers participated and it was a thrill to read all of the articles written to celebrate such a monumental occasion in the history of the church.
Due to the success of last year’s Symposium, it seemed worthwhile to me to revisit the idea. So once again I’m asking you to consider blogging about the Reformation to celebrate Reformation Day. As I did last year, I’ll link to all of the posts from this site. And as I did last year, I’ll award prizes to the “best” entries (as judged by myself and likely a couple of other judges, and based on whatever subjective criteria we come up with).
You may want to reflect on a person, an event, or a particular point of theology. The topic is wide open, so long as it somehow ties in to Reformation Day. And remember, you do not need to be Reformed to appreciate the Reformation and all it stood for. If you do not have a blog of your own, but would still like to participate, why not ask another blogger if you can “guest” on his site that day.
There will be three winners, each of whom will each receive two free prints from Reformation Art.
So start thinking, start writing, and prepare to post your articles on October 31. When you have prepared an article and posted it (please hold off posting until October 31), include a URL to my blog http://www.challies.com/archives/articles/reformed-theology/a-reformation-day-symposium-2007-edition.php (so I can find all of the posts using Technorati) and send me an email to make sure that your article has been included.
Last year, on October 31, I hosted a “Reformation Day Symposium” and invited bloggers to write articles dealing with the Reformation. A whole crowd of bloggers participated and it was a thrill to read all of the articles written to celebrate such a monumental occasion in the history of the church.
Due to the success of last year’s Symposium, it seemed worthwhile to me to revisit the idea. So once again I’m asking you to consider blogging about the Reformation to celebrate Reformation Day. As I did last year, I’ll link to all of the posts from this site. And as I did last year, I’ll award prizes to the “best” entries (as judged by myself and likely a couple of other judges, and based on whatever subjective criteria we come up with).
You may want to reflect on a person, an event, or a particular point of theology. The topic is wide open, so long as it somehow ties in to Reformation Day. And remember, you do not need to be Reformed to appreciate the Reformation and all it stood for. If you do not have a blog of your own, but would still like to participate, why not ask another blogger if you can “guest” on his site that day.
There will be three winners, each of whom will each receive two free prints from Reformation Art.
So start thinking, start writing, and prepare to post your articles on October 31. When you have prepared an article and posted it (please hold off posting until October 31), include a URL to my blog http://www.challies.com/archives/articles/reformed-theology/a-reformation-day-symposium-2007-edition.php (so I can find all of the posts using Technorati) and send me an email to make sure that your article has been included.
Friday, October 26, 2007
Puritan Quote of the Week From the Pastor's Desk
"Neither be idle in the means, nor make an idol of the means."
WILLAIM SECKER
WILLAIM SECKER
Because of Us By C.H. Spurgeon
For the elect's sake those days be shortened. (Matthew 24:22)
For the sake of His elect the Lord withholds many judgments and shortens others. In great tribulations the fire would devour all were it not that out of regard to His elect the Lord damps the flame. Thus, while He saves His elect for the sake of Jesus, He also preserves the race for the sake of His chosen.
What an honor is thus put upon saints! How diligently they ought to use their influence with their Lord! He will hear their prayers for sinners and bless their efforts for their salvation. He blesses believers that they may be a blessing to those who are in unbelief. Many a sinner lives because of the prayers of a mother, or wife, or daughter to whom the Lord has respect.
Have we used aright the singular power with which the Lord entrusts us? Do we pray for our country, for other lands, and for the age? Do we, in times of war, famine, pestilence, stand out as intercessors, pleading that the days may be shortened? Do we lament before God the outbursts of infidelity, error, and licentiousness? Do we beseech our Lord Jesus to shorten the reign of sin by hastening His own glorious appearing? Let us get to our knees and never rest till Christ appeareth.
For the sake of His elect the Lord withholds many judgments and shortens others. In great tribulations the fire would devour all were it not that out of regard to His elect the Lord damps the flame. Thus, while He saves His elect for the sake of Jesus, He also preserves the race for the sake of His chosen.
What an honor is thus put upon saints! How diligently they ought to use their influence with their Lord! He will hear their prayers for sinners and bless their efforts for their salvation. He blesses believers that they may be a blessing to those who are in unbelief. Many a sinner lives because of the prayers of a mother, or wife, or daughter to whom the Lord has respect.
Have we used aright the singular power with which the Lord entrusts us? Do we pray for our country, for other lands, and for the age? Do we, in times of war, famine, pestilence, stand out as intercessors, pleading that the days may be shortened? Do we lament before God the outbursts of infidelity, error, and licentiousness? Do we beseech our Lord Jesus to shorten the reign of sin by hastening His own glorious appearing? Let us get to our knees and never rest till Christ appeareth.
The Most Dangerous Thing in the World By Rev. Bryan Wolfmueller
What is the most dangerous thing in the world? I suspect each person would have a different answer; what do you think? Lions, tigers, bears (or snakes, I'm not a fan of snakes)? Do you think different diseases like cancer or diabetes? Perhaps Islamic terrorists or communist dictators top your list. If your a farmer locusts or drought might be the most dangerous thing. What do you think is the most dangerous thing in the world?
While all the answers list above are different, they all have something in common: they kill. The thing lions and cancer and terrorists have in common is that the murder, and the more they kill the more dangerous they seem. But what does the Bible say about this? What does Jesus say is the most dangerous thing in the world?
First, Jesus tells us not to fear physical death. “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” [Matthew 10:28] Physical death is not the most dangerous thing. There is something worse: judgment and condemnation. This is to be feared.
This is why Jesus teaches us the most dangerous thing in all the world is false teaching. That's right: false doctrine. I'm sure that if I did a survey of a thousand people, asking them the question: What's the most dangerous thing in the world? that the answer 'false doctrine' would never show up; that is, unless we ask Jesus.
Just about every time Jesus (and in fact the entire New Testament) uses the word 'Beware' He is using it to warn against false teaching and false doctrine.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” [Matthew 7:15]
False teachers are dangerous because they come to kill and destroy, not our bodies but our souls. Every false teaching strikes at Jesus; every false doctrine obscures the clarity of the Gospel. And false teachers are made even more dangerous because they are hidden under outward righteousness; these wolves dress as cute cuddly lambs.
Jesus said to them, "Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." [Matthew 16:6]
Jesus gives this warning to His disciples as they were on the sea of Galilee, soon after feeding the five thousand and then the four thousand men (with their families). The disciples think that Jesus is criticizing them because they forgot bread. To this Jesus responds:
8 But Jesus, aware of this, said, "O you of little faith, why are you discussing among yourselves the fact that you have no bread? 9 Do you not yet perceive? Do you not remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many baskets you gathered? 10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many baskets you gathered? 11 How is it that you fail to understand that I did not speak about bread? Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." 12 Then they understood that he did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees. [Matthew 16:8-12]
Jesus warns against the false teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees, and what is their false teaching? First, the Pharisees and Sadducees rejected Jesus. They saw that He was the promised Messiah, and knowingly rejected Him and plotted His death. Second, the Pharisees and Sadducees sought to achieve a righteousness by their own works and efforts. They needed no forgiveness, no Savior, because, in their own eyes, they had no sin. Such false teaching destroys people eternally.
The Lord's apostles also repeat this warning. From His jail cell St Paul writes to the church in Philipi:
“Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the mutilation.” [Philippians 3:2]
The 'mutilation' are those false teachers who required Gentiles to be circumcised before they could join the church. Such false teaching displaced the truth of the free grace of God with the lie that works are needed for salvation. Paul repeats this warning to the Colossians:
“Beware that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.” [Colossians 2:8]
The false teachers in Colosse tried to draw the Lord's Church away from her Jesus by tempting them to philosophy, human traditions, the so-called wisdom of the world. Again, this false teaching is dangerous because it pulls our faith away from Jesus and the promise of our forgiveness.
Like St Paul, St Peter also warns the church about the most dangerous thing: false teaching.
You therefore, beloved, seeing that you know these things before, beware that you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness. [2 Peter 3:17]
Peter's warning stands alongside the warnings of Paul and our Lord Jesus: Beware of error; beware of evil workers; beware of false prophets. With these commands the Lord's church is put on constant vigilance against any error or false teaching that would threaten the simplicity of Christ, the words of the Scriptures, and the comfort of the Gospel's promise of the forgiveness of all sins.
What's the most dangerous thing in the world? According to the Lord's word it is false teaching. May His church continue to pray that the Lord would keep His church in the purity of His Word, that knowing the truth we would know the freedom of the forgiveness of all sins and the sure hope of eternal life. Amen.
Lord, keep us steadfast in Thy Word;Curb those who fain by craft and swordWould wrest the Kingdom from Thy SonAnd set at naught all He hath done.
Lord Jesus Christ, Thy power make known,For Thou art Lord of lords alone;Defend Thy Christendom that weMay evermore sing praise to Thee.
O Comforter of priceless worth.Send peace and unity on earth.Support us in our final strifeAnd lead us out of death to life. Amen.
While all the answers list above are different, they all have something in common: they kill. The thing lions and cancer and terrorists have in common is that the murder, and the more they kill the more dangerous they seem. But what does the Bible say about this? What does Jesus say is the most dangerous thing in the world?
First, Jesus tells us not to fear physical death. “And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” [Matthew 10:28] Physical death is not the most dangerous thing. There is something worse: judgment and condemnation. This is to be feared.
This is why Jesus teaches us the most dangerous thing in all the world is false teaching. That's right: false doctrine. I'm sure that if I did a survey of a thousand people, asking them the question: What's the most dangerous thing in the world? that the answer 'false doctrine' would never show up; that is, unless we ask Jesus.
Just about every time Jesus (and in fact the entire New Testament) uses the word 'Beware' He is using it to warn against false teaching and false doctrine.
“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.” [Matthew 7:15]
False teachers are dangerous because they come to kill and destroy, not our bodies but our souls. Every false teaching strikes at Jesus; every false doctrine obscures the clarity of the Gospel. And false teachers are made even more dangerous because they are hidden under outward righteousness; these wolves dress as cute cuddly lambs.
Jesus said to them, "Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." [Matthew 16:6]
Jesus gives this warning to His disciples as they were on the sea of Galilee, soon after feeding the five thousand and then the four thousand men (with their families). The disciples think that Jesus is criticizing them because they forgot bread. To this Jesus responds:
8 But Jesus, aware of this, said, "O you of little faith, why are you discussing among yourselves the fact that you have no bread? 9 Do you not yet perceive? Do you not remember the five loaves for the five thousand, and how many baskets you gathered? 10 Or the seven loaves for the four thousand, and how many baskets you gathered? 11 How is it that you fail to understand that I did not speak about bread? Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees." 12 Then they understood that he did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees. [Matthew 16:8-12]
Jesus warns against the false teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees, and what is their false teaching? First, the Pharisees and Sadducees rejected Jesus. They saw that He was the promised Messiah, and knowingly rejected Him and plotted His death. Second, the Pharisees and Sadducees sought to achieve a righteousness by their own works and efforts. They needed no forgiveness, no Savior, because, in their own eyes, they had no sin. Such false teaching destroys people eternally.
The Lord's apostles also repeat this warning. From His jail cell St Paul writes to the church in Philipi:
“Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the mutilation.” [Philippians 3:2]
The 'mutilation' are those false teachers who required Gentiles to be circumcised before they could join the church. Such false teaching displaced the truth of the free grace of God with the lie that works are needed for salvation. Paul repeats this warning to the Colossians:
“Beware that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.” [Colossians 2:8]
The false teachers in Colosse tried to draw the Lord's Church away from her Jesus by tempting them to philosophy, human traditions, the so-called wisdom of the world. Again, this false teaching is dangerous because it pulls our faith away from Jesus and the promise of our forgiveness.
Like St Paul, St Peter also warns the church about the most dangerous thing: false teaching.
You therefore, beloved, seeing that you know these things before, beware that you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness. [2 Peter 3:17]
Peter's warning stands alongside the warnings of Paul and our Lord Jesus: Beware of error; beware of evil workers; beware of false prophets. With these commands the Lord's church is put on constant vigilance against any error or false teaching that would threaten the simplicity of Christ, the words of the Scriptures, and the comfort of the Gospel's promise of the forgiveness of all sins.
What's the most dangerous thing in the world? According to the Lord's word it is false teaching. May His church continue to pray that the Lord would keep His church in the purity of His Word, that knowing the truth we would know the freedom of the forgiveness of all sins and the sure hope of eternal life. Amen.
Lord, keep us steadfast in Thy Word;Curb those who fain by craft and swordWould wrest the Kingdom from Thy SonAnd set at naught all He hath done.
Lord Jesus Christ, Thy power make known,For Thou art Lord of lords alone;Defend Thy Christendom that weMay evermore sing praise to Thee.
O Comforter of priceless worth.Send peace and unity on earth.Support us in our final strifeAnd lead us out of death to life. Amen.
Synthetic Church Growth is Like Cancer
Quoting John MacArthur . . .
The church's strategy has never been to appeal to the world on the world's terms. Churches aren't supposed to compete for the consumer on the same level as Miller Lite or MTV. We can't stimulate genuine growth by clever persuasion or inventive techniques. It is the Lord who adds to the church (Acts 2:47). Human methodologies cannot accelerate or supersede the divine process. Any additional growth they produce is a barren imitation. Artificial or unnatural growth in the biological realm can cause disfigurement - or worse, cancer. Synthetic growth in the spiritual realm is every bit as unhealthy.
The church's strategy has never been to appeal to the world on the world's terms. Churches aren't supposed to compete for the consumer on the same level as Miller Lite or MTV. We can't stimulate genuine growth by clever persuasion or inventive techniques. It is the Lord who adds to the church (Acts 2:47). Human methodologies cannot accelerate or supersede the divine process. Any additional growth they produce is a barren imitation. Artificial or unnatural growth in the biological realm can cause disfigurement - or worse, cancer. Synthetic growth in the spiritual realm is every bit as unhealthy.
Doug Pagitt’s Recent Interview By Nathan Busenitz
For those of you who haven’t heard this yet, you really need to take a few minutes and listen to it. It is a radio interview between Todd Friel (of Way of the Master radio) and Doug Pagitt (a leading figure within the Emergent Church). It’s about 15 minutes long and worth the time.
If you are at all curious about where (at least one leading voice within) the Emergent Church stands theologically, this is a pretty eye-opening indicator.
For the YouTube version click here.
For the MP3 version click here.
For Todd Friel’s follow up article click here.
If you are at all curious about where (at least one leading voice within) the Emergent Church stands theologically, this is a pretty eye-opening indicator.
For the YouTube version click here.
For the MP3 version click here.
For Todd Friel’s follow up article click here.
Thursday, October 25, 2007
What happened on October 31, 1517?
It’s been 490 years since “a monk with a mallet” nailed his 95 theses to the church door in Wittenberg, Germany. God used Martin Luther to start the greatest revival the world has seen. Though there were many benefits to the Protestant Reformation, the publishing of God’s Word in common languages was united to a hunger for the right understanding of that Word.
The year 1517 saw a display of God’s grace in human history and every year since we have the opportunity to remember. Let us redouble our efforts to be faithful to the historic Christian faith. Martin Luther is one of the more important figures in Western history, as his thought has impacted family life, politics, church-state relations, individual liberties, and a host of other societal issues. His powerful expositions of the Gospel remain one of his most important legacies. In an era when the Gospel had been eclipsed by a system of human merit, Luther and the other reformers were able to remind the people of God that we are declared righteous in the sight of the Lord through faith alone in the person and work of Christ Jesus.
The year 1517 saw a display of God’s grace in human history and every year since we have the opportunity to remember. Let us redouble our efforts to be faithful to the historic Christian faith. Martin Luther is one of the more important figures in Western history, as his thought has impacted family life, politics, church-state relations, individual liberties, and a host of other societal issues. His powerful expositions of the Gospel remain one of his most important legacies. In an era when the Gospel had been eclipsed by a system of human merit, Luther and the other reformers were able to remind the people of God that we are declared righteous in the sight of the Lord through faith alone in the person and work of Christ Jesus.
Contentment Comes from Giving By Dr.John MacArthur
If you live for yourself, you will never be content. Many of us don’t experience contentment because we demand our world to be exactly the way we want it to be. We want our spouse to fulfill our expectations and agenda. We want our children to conform to a prewritten plan we have ordained for them to fulfill. And we want everything else to fall into its perfect niche in the little cupboard where we compartmentalize every element of existence.
Paul prayed for the Philippians to have a different perspective. He began his letter to them with a prayer that their love for one another might abound (Phil. 1:9), and went on to give this practical advice: “Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind let each of you regard one another as more important than himself” (Phil. 2:3). He wanted them to lose themselves by being preoccupied with the well-being of others. This was the example he gave to them and us:
Nevertheless, you have done well to share with me in my affliction. And you yourselves also know, Philippians, that at the first preaching of the Gospel, after I departed from Macedonia, no church shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving but you alone; for even in Thessalonica you sent a gift more than once for my needs. Not that I seek the gift itself, but I seek for the profit which increases to your account. But I have received everything in full, and have an abundance; I am amply supplied, having received from Epaphroditus what you have sent, a fragrant aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, well pleasing to God. And my God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus (Phil. 4:14–19).
Even though Paul was assured of God’s providence, independent of his circumstances, and strengthened by divine power, he knew how to write a gracious thank-you note. He wanted the Philippians to know they had done a noble thing in caring for his needs. They were a poor church from Macedonia (an area whose poverty is described in 2 Cor. 8—9) who had apparently sent food, clothing, and money to Paul in Rome through Epaphroditus. Their generosity impressed Paul.
Notice what made him happiest of all about the gift: “Not that I seek the gift itself, but I seek for the profit which increases to your account” (Phil. 4:17). He was more interested in their spiritual benefit than his material gain. Being comfortable, well fed, and satisfied weren’t Paul’s main concerns in life. Rather, he was interested in accruing eternal dividends to the lives of the people he loved. Here are the timeless scriptural principles that apply:
Proverbs 11:24–25: “There is one who scatters, yet increases all the more, and there is one who withholds what is justly due, but it results only in want. The generous man will be prosperous, and he who waters will himself be watered.”
Proverbs 19:17: “He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the Lord, and He will repay him for his good deed.”
Luke 6:38: “Give, and it will be given to you.”
2 Corinthians 9:6: “He who sows sparingly shall also reap sparingly; and he who sows bountifully shall also reap bountifully.”
Paul described the gift he had received as “a fragrant aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, well pleasing to God” (Phil. 4:18). He was using Old Testament imagery to say, “Not only did you give it to me, but you also gave it to God.” At the beginning of our passage, in verse 10, we noted how happy Paul was to receive the gift. His joy came not because he finally received what he had been wanting (as we saw in verse 11, he politely mentioned that he didn’t need it), but because the Philippians had given him something that honored God and would accrue to their spiritual benefit.
Their doing that led Paul to say in closing, “My God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus” (v. 19). That is one of the most often-quoted verses of Scripture, but it needs to be set in its context. Paul was saying, “You gave to me in a way that left you in need. I want to assure you that God will not remain in your debt. He will supply all your needs.” It refers to material, earthly needs sacrificed by the Philippians that God in response to their sacrifice would amply replenish.
If you likewise “honor the Lord from your wealth…your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will overflow with new wine” (Prov. 3:9–10). God’s not going to give you back spiritual blessings only and let you die of hunger. If you’re in Christ, the riches of God in glory are yours. That is why, as we learned in our first chapter , we are not to be preoccupied with what we eat, drink, or wear. Instead we are to “seek first His kingdom, and His righteousness; and… not be anxious” (Matt. 6:33–34).
Attack anxiety in your life by applying what you have learned about contentment. Be confident in God’s sovereign providence, and don’t allow your circumstances to trouble you. Instead of giving in to panic, cling to the promise of Romans 8:28: “We know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God.” Regard that verse as a spiritual lifeline for the rest of your life.
Also, buck the tide of our materialistic, selfish society by being satisfied with little and more concerned about the spiritual welfare of others than your material needs. Be obedient to God’s Word and confident in His power to meet all your needs. May our Lord keep all these principles in the forefront of our minds that we might be content—and free from anxiety!
Paul prayed for the Philippians to have a different perspective. He began his letter to them with a prayer that their love for one another might abound (Phil. 1:9), and went on to give this practical advice: “Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind let each of you regard one another as more important than himself” (Phil. 2:3). He wanted them to lose themselves by being preoccupied with the well-being of others. This was the example he gave to them and us:
Nevertheless, you have done well to share with me in my affliction. And you yourselves also know, Philippians, that at the first preaching of the Gospel, after I departed from Macedonia, no church shared with me in the matter of giving and receiving but you alone; for even in Thessalonica you sent a gift more than once for my needs. Not that I seek the gift itself, but I seek for the profit which increases to your account. But I have received everything in full, and have an abundance; I am amply supplied, having received from Epaphroditus what you have sent, a fragrant aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, well pleasing to God. And my God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus (Phil. 4:14–19).
Even though Paul was assured of God’s providence, independent of his circumstances, and strengthened by divine power, he knew how to write a gracious thank-you note. He wanted the Philippians to know they had done a noble thing in caring for his needs. They were a poor church from Macedonia (an area whose poverty is described in 2 Cor. 8—9) who had apparently sent food, clothing, and money to Paul in Rome through Epaphroditus. Their generosity impressed Paul.
Notice what made him happiest of all about the gift: “Not that I seek the gift itself, but I seek for the profit which increases to your account” (Phil. 4:17). He was more interested in their spiritual benefit than his material gain. Being comfortable, well fed, and satisfied weren’t Paul’s main concerns in life. Rather, he was interested in accruing eternal dividends to the lives of the people he loved. Here are the timeless scriptural principles that apply:
Proverbs 11:24–25: “There is one who scatters, yet increases all the more, and there is one who withholds what is justly due, but it results only in want. The generous man will be prosperous, and he who waters will himself be watered.”
Proverbs 19:17: “He who is gracious to a poor man lends to the Lord, and He will repay him for his good deed.”
Luke 6:38: “Give, and it will be given to you.”
2 Corinthians 9:6: “He who sows sparingly shall also reap sparingly; and he who sows bountifully shall also reap bountifully.”
Paul described the gift he had received as “a fragrant aroma, an acceptable sacrifice, well pleasing to God” (Phil. 4:18). He was using Old Testament imagery to say, “Not only did you give it to me, but you also gave it to God.” At the beginning of our passage, in verse 10, we noted how happy Paul was to receive the gift. His joy came not because he finally received what he had been wanting (as we saw in verse 11, he politely mentioned that he didn’t need it), but because the Philippians had given him something that honored God and would accrue to their spiritual benefit.
Their doing that led Paul to say in closing, “My God shall supply all your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus” (v. 19). That is one of the most often-quoted verses of Scripture, but it needs to be set in its context. Paul was saying, “You gave to me in a way that left you in need. I want to assure you that God will not remain in your debt. He will supply all your needs.” It refers to material, earthly needs sacrificed by the Philippians that God in response to their sacrifice would amply replenish.
If you likewise “honor the Lord from your wealth…your barns will be filled with plenty, and your vats will overflow with new wine” (Prov. 3:9–10). God’s not going to give you back spiritual blessings only and let you die of hunger. If you’re in Christ, the riches of God in glory are yours. That is why, as we learned in our first chapter , we are not to be preoccupied with what we eat, drink, or wear. Instead we are to “seek first His kingdom, and His righteousness; and… not be anxious” (Matt. 6:33–34).
Attack anxiety in your life by applying what you have learned about contentment. Be confident in God’s sovereign providence, and don’t allow your circumstances to trouble you. Instead of giving in to panic, cling to the promise of Romans 8:28: “We know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God.” Regard that verse as a spiritual lifeline for the rest of your life.
Also, buck the tide of our materialistic, selfish society by being satisfied with little and more concerned about the spiritual welfare of others than your material needs. Be obedient to God’s Word and confident in His power to meet all your needs. May our Lord keep all these principles in the forefront of our minds that we might be content—and free from anxiety!
DAY FOUR FROM LAKE MARY.....By Rev. Charles J. Paul
Day four in Lake Mary
Classes for today include.
1- Meet the Puritans.
2- A simple way to pray.
Joe and I will also be taking some time today to reflect on what has been put before us.
Last nights service at St Andrews Chapel left us speechless. Every Pastor who was present last night was brought face to face with the Prophet Amos. In Amos 8 we saw God’s Holy Wrath being poured out among a people who turned a deaf ear to the Truth of God’s Word.
And God brought a FAMINE IN THE LAND. But this Famine was not one of being without physical food. This FAMINE was worse it was a FAMINE were God closes heaven. And no longer speaks to His people. The result is horrible they are like the walking dead as a result.
We also saw how we are living in the midst of the same FAMINE IN OUR LAND. We live in a country were the Word of God is preached by faithful men. In pulpits, on TV, on Radio, we have Christian publishing houses unlike other countries can even dream of.
But what have we done?
Classes for today include.
1- Meet the Puritans.
2- A simple way to pray.
Joe and I will also be taking some time today to reflect on what has been put before us.
Last nights service at St Andrews Chapel left us speechless. Every Pastor who was present last night was brought face to face with the Prophet Amos. In Amos 8 we saw God’s Holy Wrath being poured out among a people who turned a deaf ear to the Truth of God’s Word.
And God brought a FAMINE IN THE LAND. But this Famine was not one of being without physical food. This FAMINE was worse it was a FAMINE were God closes heaven. And no longer speaks to His people. The result is horrible they are like the walking dead as a result.
We also saw how we are living in the midst of the same FAMINE IN OUR LAND. We live in a country were the Word of God is preached by faithful men. In pulpits, on TV, on Radio, we have Christian publishing houses unlike other countries can even dream of.
But what have we done?
We in this country have heaped up teachers that will tickle our ears. Tell us what we want to hear. False teacher are rising higher than even in the days of Amos. They are getting so big they even have to hold there services in old basket ball arenas.
Today is the day. We must hear God’s command to turn back to the Truth. For we can see with out any doubt. Even in the midst of our great country of plenty where pastors will tell you that the church is on the rise. That she has never been stronger.
No, what they are showing us is her outside make believe facade. But when we take her true spiritual temperature we see that the church today in America is in the midst of a DEADLY FAMINE IN HER LAND.
WHAT CAN WE DO?
The church must REPENT of her worldly ways. Fall on her face before a Holy God. Pastor’s must begin to Study and pray a labor in the BOOK. So that they can feed there flocks a pure diet of the whole counsel of God.
Today is the day. We must hear God’s command to turn back to the Truth. For we can see with out any doubt. Even in the midst of our great country of plenty where pastors will tell you that the church is on the rise. That she has never been stronger.
No, what they are showing us is her outside make believe facade. But when we take her true spiritual temperature we see that the church today in America is in the midst of a DEADLY FAMINE IN HER LAND.
WHAT CAN WE DO?
The church must REPENT of her worldly ways. Fall on her face before a Holy God. Pastor’s must begin to Study and pray a labor in the BOOK. So that they can feed there flocks a pure diet of the whole counsel of God.
Where the pulpit goes. So goes that Church.
MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON US.
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
Puritan Quote of the Week From the Pastor's Desk
"Impress the young convert from the very beginning with the coviction that God has called him into His kingdom to struggle with the corruptions of his heart."
WILLIAM B. SPRAGUE
WILLIAM B. SPRAGUE
DAY THREE FROM LAKE MARY FLORIDA...... Rev. Charles J. Paul
My morning began bright and early with prayer and devotions in the Psalms. Followed by fellowship with other Pastors.
Our day today will be again packed with classes, question and answer panels, followed by a Worship service tonight at St Andrews Chapel [Dr RC Sproul is Sr Minister]
Classes today include
1- God centered Adult education.
2- God centered Evangelism
3- God centered Concept of Truth
We will also be conducting live Truth Matters interviews. And meetings.
Please stay tuned for live interview updates and photos. http://www.truthmattersinc.org/
But most of all may our God continue to bless you through the study of His matchless Word.
Our day today will be again packed with classes, question and answer panels, followed by a Worship service tonight at St Andrews Chapel [Dr RC Sproul is Sr Minister]
Classes today include
1- God centered Adult education.
2- God centered Evangelism
3- God centered Concept of Truth
We will also be conducting live Truth Matters interviews. And meetings.
Please stay tuned for live interview updates and photos. http://www.truthmattersinc.org/
But most of all may our God continue to bless you through the study of His matchless Word.
What is being served at your Church? By Rev. Charles J. Paul
Today we live in a culture of cooks. Everyone knows someone who loves to cook. And everyone knows someone like me who loves to eat. Some people cook very health food and others not so healthy food.
In light of being here in Lake Mary Florida, with theologians that truly have a heart to serve in context all of Holy Scripture. And I myself can see that my apatite for God’s Word has increased over the last few days, along with hundreds of other men who have been called to PREACH HIS WORD.
I wanted to show you briefly that there is a recipe that is being served up by the seeker sensitive churches that is not producing a very healthy if at all Christian.
So let’s compare the to recipes
In light of being here in Lake Mary Florida, with theologians that truly have a heart to serve in context all of Holy Scripture. And I myself can see that my apatite for God’s Word has increased over the last few days, along with hundreds of other men who have been called to PREACH HIS WORD.
I wanted to show you briefly that there is a recipe that is being served up by the seeker sensitive churches that is not producing a very healthy if at all Christian.
So let’s compare the to recipes
The New and Improved Seeker-Sensitive Recipe for Making Disciples
Heaping Portions of Culturally Appealing Entertainment
Generous Scoops of Songs That Have Little or No Doctrinal Content
Buckets of Sermons That Teach Practical Self-Help Lessons and Pop-Psych Mixed With a Sprinkling of Out-of-Context Bible Verses
The Yeast From a Small Group Study Lead by Un-Trained Lay-People Who Pool Their Biblical Ignorance by Asking the Question, “What Does This Verse Mean to You?”
Generous Scoops of Songs That Have Little or No Doctrinal Content
Buckets of Sermons That Teach Practical Self-Help Lessons and Pop-Psych Mixed With a Sprinkling of Out-of-Context Bible Verses
The Yeast From a Small Group Study Lead by Un-Trained Lay-People Who Pool Their Biblical Ignorance by Asking the Question, “What Does This Verse Mean to You?”
The Biblical Recipe for Making Disciples - Acts 2:42
A Tenacious Devotion to the Teaching of the Apostles (God’s Word Proclaimed in Song and Sermon) Under A Trained Pastor - 2 Tim 4:1-2, 2 Tim 2:2
Fellowship
Breaking of Bread (Lord's Supper)
Prayers
Which recipe is your church cooking with?
Fellowship
Breaking of Bread (Lord's Supper)
Prayers
Which recipe is your church cooking with?
Steve Camp on Osteens new book
Here are a few things that brother Joel Osteen unwittingly left out of his most recent book, “Become A Better You”, that I humbly suggest should have been included.
Seven Truths to Living Faithfully:
1. Apply the gospel to yourself daily by denying yourself, taking up your cross, and following Him; counting the loss of things rubbish in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus the Lord (Matt. 16:24-26; Phil. 3:7-11).
2. Have a continual life of confession of and repentance from sin (Psalm 66:18; Psalm 32:1-5; Psalm 51; 1 John 2:28-3:9).
3. Read and study your Bible every day (Psalm 119; John 17:17; Jude 3; 2 Tim. 3:16-17; Psalm 19:7-11; Eph. 4:11-16).
4. Developing an effective, fervent daily prayer life in the Holy Spirit (Eph. 6:18-21; James 5:16f; Luke 18:1; Col. 1:9-14).
5. Proclaim the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and make disciples of all the nations (1 Peter 3:15f; Roms. 1:16f; 1 Cor. 9:1-18; Matt. 28:19f; Luke 24:44-49).
6. Live sacrifically by serving others as a committed member under the accountability of the local church (Eph. 5:21; Phil. 2:1-4; 1 Tim. 6:1-6; John 13; Phil. 4:10ff; Acts 2:40ff).
7. Do all things to the glory of God - living “out loud” the two great commandments (1 Cor. 10:31; Matt. 5-7; Luke 10:27).
2. Have a continual life of confession of and repentance from sin (Psalm 66:18; Psalm 32:1-5; Psalm 51; 1 John 2:28-3:9).
3. Read and study your Bible every day (Psalm 119; John 17:17; Jude 3; 2 Tim. 3:16-17; Psalm 19:7-11; Eph. 4:11-16).
4. Developing an effective, fervent daily prayer life in the Holy Spirit (Eph. 6:18-21; James 5:16f; Luke 18:1; Col. 1:9-14).
5. Proclaim the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ and make disciples of all the nations (1 Peter 3:15f; Roms. 1:16f; 1 Cor. 9:1-18; Matt. 28:19f; Luke 24:44-49).
6. Live sacrifically by serving others as a committed member under the accountability of the local church (Eph. 5:21; Phil. 2:1-4; 1 Tim. 6:1-6; John 13; Phil. 4:10ff; Acts 2:40ff).
7. Do all things to the glory of God - living “out loud” the two great commandments (1 Cor. 10:31; Matt. 5-7; Luke 10:27).
Tuesday, October 23, 2007
Did Bill Hybels 'Repent' of Seeker Sensitive? By Jim B.
I've been receiving numerous emails from people asking me what my take is on the recent news of "Bill Hybels repenting" of his seeker sensitive methodology. The talk of repentance by the founder of the Willow Creek church comes from a recent conference in which he was quoted as saying: "spiritual growth doesn't happen best by becoming dependent on elaborate church programs but through the age old spiritual practices of prayer, bible reading, and relationships. And, ironically, these basic disciplines do not require multi-million dollar facilities and hundreds of staff to manage". Of course, that's true, and that's why so many of us have been chanting "give us Bibles not Hybels!" for years. But the question now is - what are we to make of these latest Willow words? Are we really seeing a change of mind from the Prince of Plexiglas Pulpits? Or is this just another left turn leading even further away from biblical Christianity?
I wish I could give a more positive assessment to the remarks by Bill Hybels but I'm more apt to agree with Phil Johnson's reaction:
...It's just a slick announcement about Willow Creek's latest program. So am I the only one who finds it both ironic and disturbing that when the framers of ministry philosophy at Willow Creek finally are faced with the desiccated fruits of their program-driven approach to ministry, their instant response is to announce a new program? Really, I would love to sound more positive and affirming about Hybels' "wake up call." But critics of Willow Creek have been pointing out for years that the seeker-sensitive ministry philosophy severely stunts Christian growth. Even worse, Willow Creek's methodology seems to multiply the number of almost-converts who dabble in spiritual matters until they are no longer amused, and then fall away without ever coming to authentic faith in Christ.Hybels has blown off all those criticisms for years. He only reluctantly and partially accepts them now because he can't very well wave aside his own staff's opinion-poll data.
You can see what you think by listening to Bill Hybels in this video, which unfortunately sounds closer to a stand-up comedy routine than the remorse of a wearer of sack cloth and ashes.
If you've read Old Truth for a while, you know that I attended a church that modeled itself after Bill Hybels' approach. We live about 90 minutes away, and my former church regularly received training and materials from Willow Creek. It is from years of my own observations from within that church system that I can agree with the assessment of Hybels himself, as he pointed to the problem diagrammed on the white board in the video. It's the same dilemma that my former pastor used to seem haunted by at times; it's the problem of whether they are addressing the "fully devoted followers of Christ", or whether they are even seeing such devotion as the fruit of their system.
Therein lies the achilles heel of the whole Seeker Sensitive system. Hybels didn't come right out and admit it in terms like these, but the lesson is clear: These churches are great at attracting crowds, but after unchurched Harry has been going there for a year, then what? That next step is where the problems are so apparent, that even the biased Willow Creek staff was able to identify them.
The problem for Hybels' system is that only the Holy Spirit can make true believers. Yet it's clear when we hear Hybels say things like this that he thinks man can create belief: "If they'll sustain that kind of all out effort, they're going to break through all the barriers keeping them from belief". He may be finding out now though, that there are some barriers that can NOT easily be overcome, even by innovative church systems, and a particularly hard nut to crack is how to turn seekers into the kind of believers that are so fully devoted that they are willing to suffer and endure persecution and trials for the sake of Christ. Even when a church like Willow Creek does play a part in creating a true believer, the convert ends up recognizing that the very church that was used by God to save them, now has very little to offer them. Many end up leaving, and their place in the pew (fold down theater chair) is filled by a new seeker.
In the video, Bill Hybels speaks of one fix to the problems that he sees in his church system, as being the need to teach advanced believers to "feed themselves" and not look so much to the church to feed them. No doubt believers should do that, but is it really wrong to expect meaty teaching from our churches? According to the recent tirade of megachurch pastor Steven Furtick, the answer to that is 'Yes'. And yet the disciples in the Acts 2 church devoted themselves to "the Apostle's teaching". When we read biblical letters to churches such as the book of Romans, it gives us an idea of what was considered to be "the Apostle's teaching"; many today would call Romans "too heady" even though it was written to church goers (not theologians). We know enough about Willow Creek to realize that this kind of meat is not on the menu there, despite Hybels' claims to the contrary in the video.
We often hear that "small groups" are the answer to advanced bible training and discipleship, but that has proven to be false for the most part. Another post here on Old Truth demonstrated how these small groups tend to be a "pooling of ignorance" with an emphasis on "sharing your feelings". Fellowship and "prayer and share" have value, but the question still remains - where is the meaty bible teaching, especially in an environment where anyone's opinion is supposed to be as valid as everyone else's?
So then, what does Bill Hybels admission of the flaws in his system really mean? All I can do is guess at this point. We know that Rick Warren is thought of by many as having improved upon Hybels' ideas; Warren overshadowed Bill Hybels to some degree. Now perhaps we are seeing Warren being overshadowed by the bolder next generation seeker churches like Newspring, Granger, Ed Young Jr., and LifeChurch.tv. Maybe the Emerging Church movement is set to overshadow all of them. We don't know at this point, but suffice it to say, Hybels' methodology is getting old now.
For Bill Hybels to remain on top as a leader in modern evangelicalism, an innovative change is needed. Maybe it will be some postmodern blending of the seeker paradigm with the Emerging Church. Perhaps we will see new cooperation between Hybels and some like Brian McLaren or others in the mystical side of Emergent. If I were a betting man however, I would bet the farm that what we will NOT see, is a Hybels return to the ageless bible-based Christianity of the Reformers, Puritans, and Victorian age Christians in which doctrine and truth were highly valued. I hope and pray that I'm wrong.
...It's just a slick announcement about Willow Creek's latest program. So am I the only one who finds it both ironic and disturbing that when the framers of ministry philosophy at Willow Creek finally are faced with the desiccated fruits of their program-driven approach to ministry, their instant response is to announce a new program? Really, I would love to sound more positive and affirming about Hybels' "wake up call." But critics of Willow Creek have been pointing out for years that the seeker-sensitive ministry philosophy severely stunts Christian growth. Even worse, Willow Creek's methodology seems to multiply the number of almost-converts who dabble in spiritual matters until they are no longer amused, and then fall away without ever coming to authentic faith in Christ.Hybels has blown off all those criticisms for years. He only reluctantly and partially accepts them now because he can't very well wave aside his own staff's opinion-poll data.
You can see what you think by listening to Bill Hybels in this video, which unfortunately sounds closer to a stand-up comedy routine than the remorse of a wearer of sack cloth and ashes.
If you've read Old Truth for a while, you know that I attended a church that modeled itself after Bill Hybels' approach. We live about 90 minutes away, and my former church regularly received training and materials from Willow Creek. It is from years of my own observations from within that church system that I can agree with the assessment of Hybels himself, as he pointed to the problem diagrammed on the white board in the video. It's the same dilemma that my former pastor used to seem haunted by at times; it's the problem of whether they are addressing the "fully devoted followers of Christ", or whether they are even seeing such devotion as the fruit of their system.
Therein lies the achilles heel of the whole Seeker Sensitive system. Hybels didn't come right out and admit it in terms like these, but the lesson is clear: These churches are great at attracting crowds, but after unchurched Harry has been going there for a year, then what? That next step is where the problems are so apparent, that even the biased Willow Creek staff was able to identify them.
The problem for Hybels' system is that only the Holy Spirit can make true believers. Yet it's clear when we hear Hybels say things like this that he thinks man can create belief: "If they'll sustain that kind of all out effort, they're going to break through all the barriers keeping them from belief". He may be finding out now though, that there are some barriers that can NOT easily be overcome, even by innovative church systems, and a particularly hard nut to crack is how to turn seekers into the kind of believers that are so fully devoted that they are willing to suffer and endure persecution and trials for the sake of Christ. Even when a church like Willow Creek does play a part in creating a true believer, the convert ends up recognizing that the very church that was used by God to save them, now has very little to offer them. Many end up leaving, and their place in the pew (fold down theater chair) is filled by a new seeker.
In the video, Bill Hybels speaks of one fix to the problems that he sees in his church system, as being the need to teach advanced believers to "feed themselves" and not look so much to the church to feed them. No doubt believers should do that, but is it really wrong to expect meaty teaching from our churches? According to the recent tirade of megachurch pastor Steven Furtick, the answer to that is 'Yes'. And yet the disciples in the Acts 2 church devoted themselves to "the Apostle's teaching". When we read biblical letters to churches such as the book of Romans, it gives us an idea of what was considered to be "the Apostle's teaching"; many today would call Romans "too heady" even though it was written to church goers (not theologians). We know enough about Willow Creek to realize that this kind of meat is not on the menu there, despite Hybels' claims to the contrary in the video.
We often hear that "small groups" are the answer to advanced bible training and discipleship, but that has proven to be false for the most part. Another post here on Old Truth demonstrated how these small groups tend to be a "pooling of ignorance" with an emphasis on "sharing your feelings". Fellowship and "prayer and share" have value, but the question still remains - where is the meaty bible teaching, especially in an environment where anyone's opinion is supposed to be as valid as everyone else's?
So then, what does Bill Hybels admission of the flaws in his system really mean? All I can do is guess at this point. We know that Rick Warren is thought of by many as having improved upon Hybels' ideas; Warren overshadowed Bill Hybels to some degree. Now perhaps we are seeing Warren being overshadowed by the bolder next generation seeker churches like Newspring, Granger, Ed Young Jr., and LifeChurch.tv. Maybe the Emerging Church movement is set to overshadow all of them. We don't know at this point, but suffice it to say, Hybels' methodology is getting old now.
For Bill Hybels to remain on top as a leader in modern evangelicalism, an innovative change is needed. Maybe it will be some postmodern blending of the seeker paradigm with the Emerging Church. Perhaps we will see new cooperation between Hybels and some like Brian McLaren or others in the mystical side of Emergent. If I were a betting man however, I would bet the farm that what we will NOT see, is a Hybels return to the ageless bible-based Christianity of the Reformers, Puritans, and Victorian age Christians in which doctrine and truth were highly valued. I hope and pray that I'm wrong.
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