6 comments posted from J&J Bible Ministries on the open letter sent to Lititz Grace

Raymond said...
This is very refreshing to see an effort like this to reach out to pastors of "seeker" churches.Although I applaud Mr. Paul, I would be surprised if Mr. Distler or any seeker pastor sits down with their elders to discuss this with you.If Mr. Paul knows the Scripture well from a reformed view, he will make any seeker pastor run circles which looks bad in front of his elders.I'd be interested to know if Mr. Paul is reading this...what percentage of pastors you contact are willing to sit down with their elders and talk to you.My guess is that although some pastors may have some contact with you, only a handful, if any at all, will actually allow you to speak with their elders.You see, I'm a refuge of the seeker movement. These pastors can easily sell their mission and philosophy to their elders behind closed doors.But as I stated earlier, get them in an open discussion and it makes them look foolish.Please keep the readers here updated.My guess is that this pastor will have some sort of contact you but will not allow you to have an open, honest discussion in front of elders. Take that to the bank.However, if this man is an honest, humble man of God, he will allow this open forum and take a careful look at his own theology to make sure what he is doing is Biblical.God bless you Mr. Paul and Truth Matters.Bring reformation to the church.In conclusion I would like to say I completely agree that the "church" in America is fighting for her life.In Him,Raymond
January 9, 2008 7:18:00 AM EST

reformed Questions said...
I agree. Please Mr. Distler, think about this. Its not about numbers and entertainment of people. Its about being faithful to God. How good it would be to see your flock love worship not because of the music or catchy programs, but because they love God and his word.
January 9, 2008 8:42:00 AM EST

Anonymous said...
I'm sure this Pastor from Lititz thinks what he is doing is completely Biblical. If this is the case, there is absolutely no reason to turn these people away. If this open forum is turned down it is because like all other seeker pastors, they do not want to be exposed. And once you pull out the Scripture in its context and you understand the suffiency of Scripture, there is absolutely no reason to compromise with worldly, entertaining things. I went to the littz website and briefly watched their sunday morning worship. He stated his teachings will be based on 8 words. I hope one of those words is "fear". We must fear God. And if you honestly fear God in a Biblical manner, it's impossible to do the things of Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, and others.
January 9, 2008 11:57:00 AM EST

Anonymous said...
Lets all pray that God's will be done. I am a concerned member of this church. Our pastor without question loves the Lord and has a great passion for the lost. I think this great passion gets in the way of some of his decisions. Please pastor sit down and at least discuss this issue. We need you and want you to do what brings glory to God. Rick
January 9, 2008 12:04:00 PM EST

Anonymous said...
I am concerned about Lititz too. I have not said anything directly to Scott. I guess I should. Scott meets with the pastors from lancaster county bible church once in a while. I don't think I'd want to get any ideas from them. I am not a fan at all of Rick Warren or Bill Hybels. I pray this open discussion does occur. My friends say the message has not changed but it has. If you bring in a lot of unsaved people as we are trying to do and do these fun things, most will come back. If you teach the true Gospel, most will not come back. I'm afraid our church is in fact growing rapidly, but the true church is not growing much at all. The true church is the only number that counts.
January 9, 2008 1:43:00 PM EST

Anonymous said...
I will leave Grace if it becomes like Lancaster County Bible Church. It's on the fence. Which way will it go? That is the question. I hope this forum will help. Thank you for your blog. I have learned a lot in the short amount of time I've been reading it.
January 9, 2008 1:48:00 PM EST